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Mr. Chairman, we're good when you are. 00:00:05
Under the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:27
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:30
One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:33
Commissioners, have the agenda before us. Got a couple changes I'd like to. 00:00:44
Present to you, first of all, item number 13 will be tabled this evening. 00:00:49
And I was gonna ask if there's objection to move item number 14. 00:00:54
To our first action item of the evening so it would go before item 9. 00:00:59
If there's. 00:01:05
Or if there's any. 00:01:06
If there's a. 00:01:08
Opposition to that, that I would appreciate that and if there's any other changes, my fellow Commissioners all accept those now. 00:01:10
Any changes by staff? 00:01:18
No, Mr. Chairman, that was the. 00:01:20
Is there a motion to approve the agenda as amended? 00:01:22
So moved. 00:01:25
The motion and 2nd any discussion. The motion is second. 00:01:27
They've begun, Mr. Richardson. Vote yes, vote yes. Commissioner sparked your vote yes, vote yes. I vote yes. It is approved as 00:01:30
amended. 00:01:34
Item number four, approval of minutes. We have one set of minutes from our. 00:01:38
June 7th, 2023 Public hearing Business meeting. Are there any changes to those minutes? 00:01:41
Any changes by staff? 00:01:49
No, Mr. Chairman. 00:01:51
If not, is there a recommendation to approve as presented? 00:01:52
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve as presented. 00:01:54
2nd. 00:01:57
The motion and 2nd. Any discussion on the motion and 2nd. 00:01:58
There would be none. Commissioner Richardson, you vote yes, vote yes, vote yes. On your vote yes, vote yes. They stand approved. 00:02:01
We'll go ahead and move on now to our public comment. 00:02:08
Thank you. 00:02:18
OK. 00:02:40
There's a couple of names on here that I can't read, but the first one I believe the last name is Smith. 00:02:42
OK. 00:02:48
So hidden. 00:02:49
Step up and you'll if you'll just give your name and address for the record, please. 00:02:51
Good evening. My name is Sharon Smith. 00:03:01
I love that 7 Lewis St. 00:03:04
And blind. 00:03:06
Which is Casa Colorado area, for those who don't know. 00:03:08
I'm here again on the issue of the cannabis farm they're trying to put at the beginning of our neighborhood. 00:03:12
I've spoke here before. 00:03:19
We are very concerned. Our issues are still the same. We made sure you each had a copy of that last time we were here so you could 00:03:21
see what our issues were. 00:03:26
They have not changed at all. 00:03:31
We have not heard from the county. I have made numerous calls. 00:03:33
And I'm still not getting answers. 00:03:37
I have tried to make an appointment to be at one of your hearings. 00:03:40
So that we can talk to you. 00:03:44
And nobody calls me back. 00:03:48
So I made a second call and I used Mr. Sparkman. 00:03:51
As my sponsor, because I didn't know how to be, how to get a hold of the sponsor, I didn't know who was the sponsor, who was in 00:03:54
the sponsor. 00:03:58
And I was told no. 00:04:02
No explanation. 00:04:04
Just no. 00:04:07
I don't know if Mr. Sparkman said no or if they just. 00:04:09
Don't use the Councilman. 00:04:13
I would like to have a hearing. 00:04:15
We have great concerns. 00:04:18
And we are not being heard. 00:04:21
And now this has gone on for quite a while. 00:04:23
And we're still not getting answers. And I've spoken to Mike Milam. 00:04:26
He probably remembers my call. And you did say you would call me as soon as anything changed. 00:04:30
I haven't heard from my. 00:04:37
I don't know if it's still on. 00:04:38
I don't know if it's off. 00:04:41
I don't know what my next step needs to be. I don't know if you have a requirement. 00:04:42
For us to do something before we get to stand before you. 00:04:47
Please advise us. 00:04:51
We pay taxes. 00:04:52
We have been here 2022 1/2 years. Several of my neighbors have been here longer and some are little shorter than us. 00:04:54
We should have rights. 00:05:03
So please tell us how to get to your hearing so that we can express our concerns. 00:05:06
And our complaints? 00:05:11
And what are our issues are at this point? 00:05:13
I've spoke to the road department. 00:05:17
They will not call me back. 00:05:19
I have given them questions. 00:05:21
That there should be answers to. 00:05:23
One lady said she's been there 20 years. 00:05:25
Why can she not answer? 00:05:28
Why that road is now called? 00:05:30
Peace flamed, but it was not called Peace Lane when we moved here. But nobody seems to know that. 00:05:33
Please answer our questions. Please help us with this cannabis issue. It does not belong in the neighborhood. You look around and 00:05:41
there are thousands and thousands of acres of land. 00:05:46
They're much more appropriate. 00:05:52
For a cannabis farm, we are not telling you we don't think they should be out there. 00:05:54
We are not putting in our political field. 00:06:00
Thank you. Thank you. 00:06:03
OK, I believe there is another signature like. 00:06:07
OK. That's perfect. Go ahead and come on up if you'll just. 00:06:12
You just state your name and address for the record, please. Evening, my name is Chuck Woodward. 00:06:16
That was my wife you just listened to. 00:06:20
7 Lewis St. there in Costa, Colorado. 00:06:22
We've been in here before and I don't have a lot to say tonight. You know, I've said it all before. 00:06:26
Basically here just to let you know that. 00:06:31
We're we're still concerned. We're not going away. 00:06:34
We're going to keep after this thing, you know, until we get something resolved. 00:06:37
You know, like she said, there's a lot of various in that area. 00:06:42
They're far more appropriate for something like this in a neighborhood. 00:06:47
Everybody we've talked to says this is definitely going to affect our property values. 00:06:51
We've got kids in the neighborhood. The Sheriff's Department has agreed that it's likely going to bring our crime rate back up 00:06:57
again. 00:07:01
And we spent a long time and we. 00:07:05
Organize a community. 00:07:08
Watch. 00:07:11
System and we've cleaned it up and and we've got rid of there was a lot of crime there and this. 00:07:12
Pretty much nonexistent now. We want to keep it that way. 00:07:17
And so, like she said, we've been here over 20 years or 22 years. 00:07:21
But there are people in that neighborhood. Been there 40 years and more. 00:07:25
And I think that we should have a say in what goes on. 00:07:29
What comes into our neighborhood? 00:07:32
You know. 00:07:34
This is just not like. 00:07:35
Somebody when this started, it looked like somebody who gets to build a house there. 00:07:37
And it almost looked like they tried to sneak it in. You know, when they put the well in them, they put a big pile of dirt in 00:07:42
front of it so you couldn't see it and. 00:07:45
And you know, I I don't know. It's just it's just a screen deal. I I think that it's just not appropriate for a neighborhood like 00:07:49
that. 00:07:53
To have. 00:07:56
That our neighborhood. 00:07:57
I realize it's legal. I'm against it. 00:07:59
Doesn't matter. It's legal, but we we just don't want it growing in our neighborhood. 00:08:02
So that's it for me. Thank you. Thank you. 00:08:07
OK, next we have a Ramon Baca. 00:08:12
Good afternoon. 00:08:26
Under one baca. 00:08:27
A little bit 618 of drive. 00:08:30
I've been in a long. 00:08:32
Life residency born and raised. 00:08:33
In the Conqueror. 00:08:36
And I live in Berlin. 00:08:38
But I was some different calculator I seen all that there was to be seen. 00:08:40
I'd like to share with you yours have seen what? 00:08:46
All these drugs have come up to how much is costing us all our taxpayer dollars. 00:08:49
How much? 00:08:55
If. 00:08:57
It's hurting. 00:08:58
No, there's nothing good. 00:08:59
About this whole thing. 00:09:01
And yet in Mexico, right now, it's got the 15th highest drug. 00:09:02
In the United States. 00:09:07
That New Mexico, but the whole United States. 00:09:09
And that that's that's a shame to be that. 00:09:13
To be categorized that high already. 00:09:15
And and now we're, we're talking about that trying to add on. 00:09:18
And giving them some more linkage. 00:09:21
Another thing. 00:09:24
I've seen in the. 00:09:26
And a newspaper out of Socorro. 00:09:29
Where the the. 00:09:33
Attribute to Valencia County. 00:09:35
$427,768. 00:09:37
I don't know if anyone you all were of it. 00:09:42
Fairfield, address your comments to us please. 00:09:46
If you want to leave that with us, that's fine, but when you're speaking, you speak to us and not the public. 00:09:49
Thank you. Appreciate it. 00:09:54
He's the facts that come up. 00:09:57
Of all the five different counties, how much money was there was allocated for drugs? 00:10:00
And. 00:10:06
To me. 00:10:08
Cannabis. 00:10:11
It's it's it's a drug. It's just like. 00:10:12
Alcohol. 00:10:15
You may start with. 00:10:16
Beer a day. 00:10:17
Week. 00:10:20
But eventually you you're gonna ease up and the same thing. You're gonna go with these drugs. You may smoke marijuana. 00:10:21
Have a joint hearing now and then. 00:10:29
But a leader? 00:10:31
Through all the other different. 00:10:33
Stranger things. 00:10:34
Another thing. 00:10:36
Is a water. 00:10:38
Of all things. 00:10:41
Your water. 00:10:42
Got. 00:10:44
If you had only seen. 00:10:45
And I'm like the only hope to me. I'll remember what it was like in the in the mid 60s. 00:10:48
When the rivers went dry. 00:10:54
For the first time. 00:10:57
We and the whole community, we didn't have the means and having deep well. We only had shallow wells. We had no water. 00:10:58
Think about it, what you do go home today and not have no drinking water and you can rely on on your neighbor that might still 00:11:06
have running water at that moment. 00:11:11
And going on there and and pitching A5 gallon bucket of water. 00:11:17
We are. 00:11:23
We were all in poverty. 00:11:24
And we're still you must go. It's a poverty state. We're not. We're not no rich people. 00:11:26
So and I ask. 00:11:32
Please consider taking those mean don't take those. 00:11:34
Don't take those valuable resources from our children, our grandchildren, great grandchildren, is our precious water. Thank you 00:11:38
very much. 00:11:41
Thank you. 00:11:45
OK, Next we had a. 00:11:47
Simran Gonzalez. But I think you heard to speak on the zone change, Is that correct? 00:11:49
You're you. Did you sign up to to speak? OK. You're you're wanting to speak on the zone change, so we'll do that when we get to 00:11:54
that item, OK. 00:11:57
That, that that'll be a different time for you to be able to address this. 00:12:01
Michelle Shiplet. 00:12:05
For Michael Shifflett. 00:12:06
Michelle, I'm sorry. 00:12:09
I'm here about the cannabis farm. 00:12:16
If you'll just send your name and address for the record shiplett. 00:12:18
I'm here about the cannabis farm in our neighborhood. 00:12:22
I wonder if this forum was being. 00:12:26
In your neighborhood, if they put it there in your neighborhood. 00:12:29
Feet. 00:12:32
100, you know, 100 feet, 50 feet. 00:12:34
From your homes. 00:12:36
Would it disturb you or would it bother you? Is that? 00:12:38
I mean, it's not so you're not worried about it. 00:12:41
Mr. Sparkman, I voted for you. 00:12:44
I expect something. 00:12:46
Consideration. 00:12:48
Something cordial. 00:12:50
Just. 00:12:52
Yes, we're thinking about it. We do care about your neighborhood. 00:12:53
We don't know why this stranger from. 00:12:57
Corrales came down here, bought property, put in a six inch well. 00:12:59
And it's. 00:13:03
We're going to let him grow pot in your neighborhood. 00:13:04
I really hope that you guys will let us. 00:13:09
Have a hearing, let us do something so that. 00:13:12
We think or we believe that you're you actually do care what happens to us down there? 00:13:15
And appreciate your time. Thank you. 00:13:20
Thank you. 00:13:23
OK. I apologize, Dave Tate. 00:13:49
OK. 00:13:54
Sarah take. 00:13:56
Ohh, that's. 00:14:00
OK, Sam. 00:14:01
That works for me if you just state your David. Just for the record. 00:14:03
My name is Samantha Tate. I live at Tim Barbara Casa, Colorado. 00:14:08
I am here again about the cannabis farm that is proposed to come into our neighborhood. 00:14:13
And my I, am I allowed to ask you guys questions or can I only say this is not a question answer. OK. So you can go ahead and 00:14:20
address this. OK And well will allow you to speak. All right. Thank you. 00:14:27
Umm. 00:14:34
I don't know if you folks get together afterwards and talk about the issues that are brought up in front of you. 00:14:35
So I don't know how anything gets resolved if you don't. 00:14:42
Am I supposed to only speak to the representative? 00:14:47
Of my area and. 00:14:51
Am I even speaking to the right council here? 00:14:54
I don't know because we don't get feedback. 00:14:58
We get no feedback at all. 00:15:02
For all I know, I'm just sitting here and you guys are thinking there's that crazy old lady from Casa Colorado again that doesn't 00:15:04
want the canvas from. 00:15:08
We're just trying to protect our neighborhood. 00:15:12
And if I'm not speaking to the correct people? 00:15:15
Please let somebody in our group know. 00:15:18
So we don't have to come here and bug you guys. 00:15:22
Every Wednesday that you have a meeting. 00:15:25
Because if we don't get to the correct person, you're going to keep seeing our faces here over and over again until we get this 00:15:28
resolved and find out who we can talk to. 00:15:34
Thank you for your time. 00:15:41
Thank you very much. 00:15:42
And I just want you to all of you to know that they're speaking on the cannabis issue. You're not being ignored, but there are a 00:15:44
lot of most of these restrictions are state or state. 00:15:48
Rules that they have passed the ordinance and the legalization of cannabis. 00:15:53
We have very little to do with it at county level, but I think that we'll. 00:15:56
Danny, could you chime in a little bit on that? The individual has not brought a plan to the county asking for a cannabis. We did 00:16:00
tell. I'm sorry, missus. 00:16:05
Smith that we would get with him as soon as we heard something from this applicant. 00:16:11
That's the reason they have not heard anything. I've spoke with their three times myself. 00:16:16
And we have not heard anything back from the applicant since he came in three months ago. 00:16:20
So it. 00:16:24
At the county level right now, nothing has come to us saying that he wants to do anything with the cannabis format, So as far as 00:16:26
the county goes. 00:16:30
He has not brought that to us and we have nothing saying that he's going to do that. 00:16:35
Mrs. Hardeman was here, she has carried, she can answer any of those questions, she can pass them out to whoever wants, but. 00:16:39
As far as the county goes. 00:16:44
The applicant has not come to us and ask for anything. Mr. Chairman, if I could follow up on that. So Commissioner Sparkman's 00:16:46
request and so that he wasn't later booted out of any zoning decision that might come before this board, he requested that staff 00:16:52
and myself meet with the impacted individuals and visit with them about this project. 00:16:58
And advise them to speak with the proper authorities regarding the licensure. 00:17:36
Thank you very much. Nothing has changed since that, that you had that meeting with them. I've heard nothing. 00:17:40
OK. Thank you. I apologize that you guys are having to deal with this, but. 00:17:45
You know the the county is has very little face phone. What is happening with that? So thank you guys for your patience. 00:17:49
But I'll give you a couple minutes if you want to come up again, Mr. Chairman. 00:17:58
I'll advise that this board normally does not allow for rebuttals and so forth, but it's completely you're just it's completely 00:18:02
your discretion how you'd like to approach. 00:18:05
Please go ahead and come on up and we'll give you. 00:18:10
Just a short, short time to speak, but the. 00:18:12
Again, we're we're not going to, we're not going to get into any discussion other than what I've offered, ask you to get into 00:18:15
this. Please go ahead and fax and address for the record Sharon Smith. 00:18:19
7 Lewis St. 00:18:24
OK, Mr. Sparkman sat in the front lobby with us very first time we met. 00:18:26
I had never met Mr. We're not, We're not going to go down that path. If you have something that you want to say this. 00:18:32
He is the one that said we needed to get with the Commission and go to their hearing. 00:18:38
I don't know if you recall that. 00:18:43
But we did what he suggested and we're told no. 00:18:45
Simple as that. 00:18:50
We have tried to call people. 00:18:51
People don't call back. 00:18:54
We have been pulled. You make decisions and I know you do because we have another issue that from another neighborhood that you 00:18:57
went to and talked to them right after the meeting. 00:19:02
And we have not gotten the same kind of. 00:19:08
Ability. 00:19:11
We. 00:19:14
Feel that you have ignored us. 00:19:14
And you get paid. 00:19:17
To be our commissioners. 00:19:19
And yet, we can't get any of you. 00:19:21
To speak to us. 00:19:24
On a personal matter that will affect us gravely. 00:19:26
On asking is give us the same chance you gave the people with the trucking issue. 00:19:30
And let us talk to you, Let us know what you're thinking. 00:19:35
Let us know if you come up with an idea we haven't thought about. 00:19:39
And yes, we did speak to him. 00:19:42
But we did not get any answers back from anybody. 00:19:45
Well, you may not get the like I said, we're gonna end this right now. But I'm gonna tell you may not be getting the answers that 00:19:49
you want, that you may not be getting answers because there may not be enough answers or answers for your questions. 00:19:54
Mrs. Artemio will give you a card and if you wanted to discuss it with staff further, that would be fine. But we're going to end 00:19:59
the public discussion at this time. We're going down the path that I don't want to go down that, OK? Can we continue to come to 00:20:04
your meeting if you have 3 minutes every meeting you like to come. 00:20:08
Thank you. 00:20:13
OK. 00:20:16
Move on to item number 5, our discussion non action items. Commissioners, is there anything we wish to bring to the table tonight? 00:20:17
Mr. Chair I. 00:20:25
I think. 00:20:27
Mr. Davis is gonna talk on the. 00:20:28
What our plans are for 4th of July. 00:20:32
OK. 00:20:35
Yeah. Well, give me one second, we'll, I'll call you anything else from commissioners. 00:20:36
Staff. 00:20:41
No, Mr. Chairman, that was Mr. Davis. OK, before we get Mr. Davis up here and thank you, I just want to say that. 00:20:43
I attended the New Mexico. 00:20:50
Counties State. 00:20:52
Convention this weekend that was in San Juan County. 00:20:55
First time ever I was able to attend that, and it was. 00:20:58
Quite informative. They did a really good job. San Juan County and Farmington did a great job posting it. 00:21:01
But during that time. 00:21:07
Our own Jonathan Aragon ended his term as president of New Mexico Counties. 00:21:09
And during. 00:21:14
The conference up there was apparent. 00:21:16
As to how much support he had. 00:21:18
From the members of New Mexico County, she's done an excellent job. 00:21:21
And of course, as everything happens, you're all good. Things must come to an end. 00:21:24
But I want to personally thank you for your efforts that you put forth. It was sure nice having you. 00:21:28
As the commissioner from the Lindsey County, being president of Mexico counties and again you did a great job, so thank you. 00:21:32
Mr. Davis, Courtiers. 00:21:42
Mr. Chair, Commissioners was asked to come before you guys, reference to yet again fireworks for 2023. 00:21:46
As you know, as of the 20th of this month there by state statute they are open for sale. 00:21:53
As far as Valencia counting then incorporated areas we still. 00:22:00
Our ordinance relies on what we call safe and sane fireworks. 00:22:05
Safe and sane fireworks are the ones that are being sold if they say they emit sparks. Those are allowed in the unincorporated 00:22:09
areas of Valencia County. 00:22:13
Those fireworks are legally sold in the village of Los Lunas and Berlin. 00:22:18
The other issue we have that we always have is with the Peralta area, of course they. 00:22:24
Have no restrictions on their fireworks, they're they're allowed to sell the maximum that the state allows. 00:22:30
Which causes us. 00:22:35
A whole lot of issues here in Winston County, as you well know. 00:22:37
But as of right now, they are being sold. 00:22:40
Umm. 00:22:43
We're going to do the best that we can. It's almost impossible to. 00:22:44
Get everything that the amount of fireworks that do come from Valencia County. 00:22:49
And the staff that we have on hand, so we'll do the best we can. 00:22:53
Enforcement. 00:22:57
Is going to be hit and miss depending on what it is. 00:22:58
If it causes property damage or somebody gets hurt, then we'll deal with it accordingly with that. 00:23:01
So. 00:23:06
You still? 00:23:08
We'll try and get out on the ninth of the 4th of July and do some patrolling. 00:23:09
But with the sheer volume that's going to come from down here, it's going to be almost impossible to. 00:23:14
Please everything so. 00:23:18
We ask and we'll get with the. 00:23:21
The paper over here and try and get a couple of things in the next couple runs with some safety information. 00:23:24
Go out to the residence, we'll try and get it on our website and stuff like that so people can see. 00:23:29
They need to be safe. 00:23:34
Making sure they have water available. 00:23:36
Right ground. 00:23:38
No grasses, that type of thing. 00:23:39
The drought situation, of course we're not in the drought. 00:23:42
According to the state, so. 00:23:45
Even if we were, we're still a little bit behind the ball and making any further restrictions. 00:23:48
That I've talked with Mr. Peter on the last couple of days reference to that. 00:23:52
So that's kind of where we're at. If you guys have any questions or feel free to answer your answer as best as I can. 00:23:57
For you. 00:24:03
Commissioners. 00:24:04
Sure. 00:24:05
I don't want to over speak with Dave. 00:24:06
What would I ask? 00:24:08
Mr. Pato. 00:24:10
And the chief product if because we are on a time sensitive. 00:24:11
To do restrictions. 00:24:16
That they get. What is the date they've? 00:24:18
It is. 00:24:22
Still the cell. 00:24:25
So what? 00:24:30
Go ahead, Good Dave. 00:24:32
On this calendar and they share with us that. 00:24:41
As we get towards that time so we don't miss. 00:24:45
And if I can add a chief properties also on zoom if anybody would like to speak with him also but he has agreed to do that. 00:24:49
Chairman Fishers. 00:24:57
Dave Pado, I think your mic is off. 00:24:59
Ohh, I apologize. There it is. Thank you, Tessa. 00:25:02
Anything else? 00:25:08
Mr. Chairman. 00:25:09
I just want to reiterate what? 00:25:11
Mr. Davis said. 00:25:14
You know the the calls that are going to be coming in are going to be. 00:25:16
Uh. 00:25:20
Very, very high in volume and I know I got. 00:25:21
Multiple emails. 00:25:25
Days before the day of and. 00:25:28
And. 00:25:30
Actually, I think even a couple. 00:25:31
Weeks after. 00:25:33
4th of July that. 00:25:35
We need to enforce this deal. 00:25:37
We are. I think we're going to be enforcing the most severe cases. 00:25:39
Where people were putting stuff in in. 00:25:43
People in danger? 00:25:45
You know, I I know that the Sheriff's Office is going to. 00:25:48
Do their due diligence and follow up on any. 00:25:52
Probably yet, but. 00:25:55
Just. 00:25:57
Do the sheer volume it's going to be difficult also responding to? 00:25:58
Emergencies as far as? 00:26:02
For our students. 00:26:04
Anything else that may happen, so Please be patient. 00:26:06
Umm. 00:26:09
Please continue that e-mail and. 00:26:10
And follow up with us and we'll get with you as soon as possible about it. 00:26:13
But it's it's just one of those things. One day that's. 00:26:17
Crazier, but likes to let loose and and it's hard to. 00:26:21
Really be on top of it with. 00:26:25
Many, many cases that may pop up. 00:26:27
Thank you. 00:26:31
Issues. Anything else? 00:26:32
This has been such a hard issue for us over the years and. 00:26:35
And which we can do about it in our backyard. So it's it is what it is. So we appreciate everything that you guys do and. 00:26:38
And we do the rest to keep the community safe and you guys keep yourself safe and. 00:26:44
Do the best you can. We know we will. We know that you will. 00:26:48
Appreciate that. Thank you. So you may have any questions for Chief Profile. He's with us, Andrew. 00:26:51
Appears not. 00:26:57
Chief, thank you for being with us on Zoom, but it looks like you're off the hook for questions tonight. 00:26:58
Thank you, Chairman. 00:27:04
OK. Anything else under the discussion on action? No, Mr. Chairman. 00:27:08
Very good. 00:27:12
OK. We're going to go ahead and move into item number six, our public hearing items. We've got three of them. We've got two zone 00:27:14
changes on the agenda tonight. The first one is going to be. 00:27:18
On the property on 11 Columbus Rd. Los Lunas. The second one is going to be on 52 La La La Veta Rd. in Bolen. 00:27:23
So the first one again is zone change #2023-002. 00:27:31
And if there's anybody that's going to speak to the Zone change in Los Lunas, if you would please stand and be sworn in at this 00:27:36
time. 00:27:38
You can just stand at your seat to be sworn in. 00:27:43
Do you swear or affirm that those socially that you were given this case will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 00:27:48
truth under the penalty of the law, so help you God? 00:27:52
OK, Mr. Buck, that's all yours. 00:27:58
Chairman, Commissioners, good evening. 00:28:04
So before you today is a request for zone change number 2023022. This lies in District 5 for Planning and Zoning Commissioner 00:28:05
Trujillo. 00:28:10
Board of County Commissioners, Oregon. 00:28:16
Maria Eva Herrera requests a zone change from rural residential to district R2 to rural residential one district R1 to split the 00:28:18
property into two lots. 00:28:24
Legal Description Subdivision Los Palomas Acres. 00:28:30
Lot 22.49 Acres Map 711995 Amended. 00:28:34
V Also SWM H. 00:28:40
Located at 11 Palomas Rd. Lunas, New Mexico 87031. 00:28:43
UPC 1012038. 00:28:48
475. 00:28:52
445 followed by 6 zeros. 00:28:54
Currently zoned rural residential 2. 00:28:56
R2. 00:28:59
This was heard by the PNC Commission on April 25th and it was recommended for approval at that time. There were a few people from 00:29:01
the public both for and against this at that time. 00:29:06
There was a little bit of opposition, a little bit of. 00:29:12
Stuff for it that approved it. 00:29:14
Very good. 00:29:16
And they stand for any questions, any questions, Mr. Buck at this time? 00:29:17
OK. Thank you. Thank you so. 00:29:22
Anybody that's going to speak on this, give testimony, please stand up and state your name and address for the record and also if 00:29:25
you'll let us know. 00:29:28
Are you the applicant by any chance? 00:29:31
I'm I'm, it's my mom that I'm her daughter, Angela. 00:29:33
Good. Just state your name and address for the record. Thank you. OK and little Madam. 00:29:38
OK. 00:29:43
I'm here today on behalf of my mom. 00:29:45
Umm. 00:29:48
My mom had a total knee replacement, so that's why she can't be here today. 00:29:49
She's in a lot of pain. 00:29:53
Umm. 00:29:55
I live. 00:29:58
On my mom, she lives on the West Side. Well, I live on the West Side. 00:29:59
Getting to her house. 00:30:05
Takes time especially. 00:30:07
Traffic is moving, the traffic is heavy. 00:30:10
My dad and my brother. 00:30:15
Have passed away. 00:30:17
So she has no one else but me to care for her. 00:30:22
My parents have owned this land for 55 years. 00:30:26
Before my dad passed away. 00:30:31
He told my brother. 00:30:33
That he was to build a house on the land. 00:30:36
So he could be there to take care of. 00:30:40
My mom. 00:30:44
Back then, a second home. 00:30:46
Of land was allowed. 00:30:49
After my dad passed away. 00:30:54
My brother asked for permission to build. 00:30:56
Only to be told rules had changed. 00:31:00
We were never made aware. 00:31:07
That zoning had changed. 00:31:11
And my dad's. 00:31:14
Wishes were denied. 00:31:15
I now lost my brother. 00:31:20
I have a family. 00:31:23
Husband. 00:31:25
And children. 00:31:26
Traveling back and forth is difficult. 00:31:28
Because of her health issues. 00:31:32
I need to live near my mom. 00:31:35
To care for her without her losing her independence. 00:31:38
Please take my petition into consideration. 00:31:43
So that we can build our house near my mom. 00:31:47
Thank you. 00:31:51
Thank you. 00:31:52
Any questions? Any questions? Applicants, I guess representative, I guess is what we would refer to as at this point, 00:31:56
Commissioners. 00:31:59
OK. 00:32:04
Thank you. Is there anybody else that wants to speak on behalf of this zone change? 00:32:05
There's there's not Mr. Baca. 00:32:13
You have a map of the area. 00:32:15
Would you please bring that up? 00:32:17
OK. 00:32:48
Is there any R1 in that area? 00:32:51
Yeah, please come up. Thank you. 00:32:55
Chairman Commissioners are when I guess would be a better question, yes. So their closest R1 zoning is to the east. 00:32:58
Approximately 0.2 miles. 00:33:06
So we can see the highlighted here and the closest R1 is the purple district off to the east from there. 00:33:09
I can pull that up on the other map to show it a little differently. 00:33:21
Closest R1 is directly E approximately 0.21 miles. 00:33:55
Very good. 00:34:06
Commissioners, any other questions? 00:34:07
Under your review, did this meet the criteria for? 00:34:12
The zone change. 00:34:15
Yes, it did, Sir. 00:34:17
Anything else, Commissioners? 00:34:21
OK. There being none, we will be making a decision on this a little bit later in our meeting after our executive session, OK. 00:34:25
OK. 00:34:31
We'll move on to our next zone change item number seven. This is one at the address of 52, La La La La La Theta Rd. Belen, NM. 00:34:33
This is zone change number. 00:34:40
2023-021. 00:34:42
To buck again. 00:34:45
I'm sorry, before you start, if there's anybody here that's gonna speak in or give testimony on this one change, I would ask that 00:34:48
you please stand to be sworn in. Please, I apologize. 00:34:51
Do you swear or affirm that the testimony that you were given this case will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 00:35:00
truth and the penalty of the law? 00:35:03
To help you guys. 00:35:07
Thank you. 00:35:09
Now, Mr. Bucket, Mr. Mr. Mr. Buckley, could you for the matter of. 00:35:10
Recording Would you mind getting out of the map screen? 00:35:15
Thank you. Sorry about that. 00:35:27
Thank you. Sorry about that. Chairman, Commissioners, good evening. 00:35:28
Before you this evening is another zone change, a request for another zone change. This is number 2023021. 00:35:31
This is in District 4, PNC Commissioner sublet. 00:35:38
Board of County Commissioners Bissell. 00:35:42
Assess Cipriano Ramirez request a zone change from rural residential two district R2 to rural residential one district R1. 00:35:44
To split the property into two lots. 00:35:53
Legal Description Subdivision land of Toby and Lydia Pino. 00:35:55
Track C1B. 00:35:59
2.08 acres. 00:36:01
C 4/24/2000 revision. 00:36:03
Located at 52 Ladera Rd. 00:36:06
Berlin, New Mexico 87002. 00:36:09
UPC 1006033. 00:36:12
475. 00:36:16
335 followed by 6 zeros. 00:36:18
Currently zoned rural residential two District R2. 00:36:21
This was also heard on April the 25th at the PNZ Commission. 00:36:25
In front of the ANC Commission and they did recommend this one for denial at that time. 00:36:29
There was also some opposition at the time of that meeting as well for this case, which I think. 00:36:33
Some of those individuals are here tonight as well. 00:36:38
OK. 00:36:40
And they stand for. Any questions, Mr. Bucket, this time? 00:36:40
OK, there's one right now. Thank you. Are the applicants here in the audience? 00:36:45
Yes, OK. 00:36:49
If you. 00:36:50
Would like to come up together individually however you would like to do with this. 00:36:51
They both your names. 00:36:55
For the record in your address please. 00:36:56
Hello, my name is Boise Ramirez. This is my father, Jose Sipriano Ramirez, who's the applicant? I'm here to speak on his behalf. 00:36:59
Thank you. 00:37:06
Language barrier he doesn't understand but. 00:37:08
We want to have a clear communication. 00:37:10
So we did stand here in April and requested to get that zone change. 00:37:13
My father's requesting to split his acre and two acres .1. 00:37:21
Into two lots. 00:37:26
Umm. 00:37:27
At that time, we did mention our reasonings behind where. 00:37:29
We would like to move to the. 00:37:33
Property but. 00:37:35
Would like to sell the other part or. 00:37:36
You know if that doesn't work. 00:37:39
Be able to hand it down to. 00:37:41
One of his children or grandchildren. I mean, whatever. 00:37:43
You know, it's decided. 00:37:47
I mean, we don't know what will come, but. 00:37:49
You know at that time I did mention to. 00:37:53
I mean, I mentioned to the people here that. 00:37:58
You know, we did do our research and noticed that. 00:38:01
A lot of the properties in the surrounding area are an acre. 00:38:05
In size, they're already with the construction. 00:38:09
We have a vacant land. 00:38:13
And, you know, we thought that that was a good. 00:38:15
You know reason to request. 00:38:18
You know the the the change. 00:38:21
At that time we had a. 00:38:25
Several of the neighbors. 00:38:27
You know, post to it and we didn't feel that it was. 00:38:29
You know, for reasons that. 00:38:32
Are really? 00:38:35
Related to zone change or I mean I I understand their concerns obviously that's that's important. 00:38:36
But for example, one of the neighbors mentioned. 00:38:42
That. 00:38:45
He was concerned about value if a mobile home, 2 mobile homes were going to be brought in instead of 1. 00:38:46
And I think that. 00:38:53
That. 00:38:54
Reasons. 00:38:55
A little bit out of everybody's control, people continue to bring in mobile homes in the area. 00:38:56
Another. 00:39:02
Neighbor brought up his concerns to be that. 00:39:03
You know what if another mobile home? 00:39:07
You know, gets put in and. 00:39:09
He was concerned about. 00:39:12
A crime in the area. 00:39:13
So again, another thing that we did in Phil was really. 00:39:15
A good reason to conclude our to make a decision based on. 00:39:18
One of the neighbors did bring up that. 00:39:23
Because they are behind our property and there are water rights in our property currently. 00:39:26
That. 00:39:33
They want in the future. 00:39:33
To have the opportunity to apply for water rights and obtain water rights. 00:39:35
From that ditch. 00:39:39
I believe they're paying for for the those water rights, but they don't have them. 00:39:41
I don't. I don't know how that's. 00:39:45
Being worked but. 00:39:47
I think that. 00:39:49
I mean if. 00:39:51
That is. 00:39:52
Something a little bit outside of the scope for why we're requesting the zone change and. 00:39:53
You know what we we want to know. 00:39:59
Why, if a decision is made? 00:40:01
You know why those comments are being taken into consideration? 00:40:04
Versus what you look at? 00:40:08
You know, overall what's the big picture that you look at to consider a zone change and. 00:40:10
You know, that's that's what our request is. That's why we're here today. 00:40:16
Anything else? 00:40:21
Any questions, Commissioner? 00:40:25
Any questions of the applicant chair please? 00:40:28
So you really don't have any. 00:40:30
He said you might give it away, you might sell it. 00:40:34
So you have no real plans for it, right? 00:40:36
At this time, my father has been owner of the property for 15 years and he currently grows trees on the property. 00:40:38
And he drives there daily. 00:40:46
I mean, he loves the land. He wants to move in. 00:40:48
Umm. 00:40:51
But it's it's a huge 2 acres that's big for two people that are already. 00:40:52
Getting up in age. 00:40:57
And. 00:40:58
You know, what would you do as a property owner? I mean, are you going to hold on to the land? Try to maybe? 00:40:59
Sell it and get money back so that you can have a. 00:41:05
And good retirement, you know you're. 00:41:08
And enjoy your retirement, which you've worked so hard for. I mean, this was. 00:41:10
A property that he initially purchased as an investment. Then he was like, oh, I like the property I want to move. 00:41:13
Umm. 00:41:19
And. 00:41:20
Again, I mean we we want to sell just to give them the opportunity to have a a better retirement, but. 00:41:21
Again, that's another thing that's a little bit. 00:41:28
Out of our hands. 00:41:30
Whether it will sell or not, we just don't feel that it. 00:41:31
Should be a determining factor for. 00:41:35
The zone changes decision whether. 00:41:37
The reason he's asking is to sell or not. 00:41:40
I mean, is it allowed to? 00:41:43
Split. 00:41:44
That's. 00:41:45
That's where we want. 00:41:46
We we we feel that that the focus is more on. 00:41:48
Why do you all allow the zone change? Is it because of personal reasons? Because. 00:41:51
You know, like our the previous story, because there's a. 00:41:56
A story behind why the person wanted to split or is it? 00:41:59
I mean, is it just? 00:42:03
Why like? 00:42:04
Sure, And are we allowed to? 00:42:05
I mean, is this sufficient or request doesn't meet the criteria? Does it mean what you're looking at overall? 00:42:08
That's. 00:42:16
I feel special. 00:42:19
Commissioners, anything else? 00:42:20
Dave, this might be a good time to address the criteria. That's. 00:42:22
That we will be considering for the zone change, if you would please. Absolutely, Mr. Chairman, happy to. So when we look at any 00:42:26
zone change, this Board examines. 00:42:30
Number one, whether it's consistent with surrounding land uses, and this might be a good time to. 00:42:34
Ask that we put the map, and the board generally does that and looks to see whether or not there are other R ones. 00:42:39
And what how far they are and whether or not that's the trend in the area? 00:42:44
So if. 00:42:48
P&Z might be able to pull that up. 00:42:49
Mr. Buckley would come up to So We Get the get You on the recording. 00:43:37
Chairman, Commissioners, the nearest. 00:43:42
R1 zoning for this property will be approximately 1.2 miles. 00:43:45
For the north and also. 00:43:50
Just slightly more than that, 1.28 approximately southeast from there. 00:43:53
There are similar size properties and similar uses of the properties, but the nearest R1 zoning is at least 1.2 miles. 00:43:57
Thank you. 00:44:09
Mr. Chairman, the the next consideration this board takes into account and considering whether or not to grant a zone change 00:44:12
request. 00:44:15
Is whether or not it advances the goals stated in the Comprehensive Plan. 00:44:18
That's a very broad a broad. 00:44:22
Criteria. 00:44:27
And our comprehensive plan is is very broad and covers many different sorts of. 00:44:28
Uses density and so forth. 00:44:32
And finally, this board examines whether or not the change would be would that would advance the health, safety and welfare of 00:44:35
county residents. So we look at. 00:44:39
In access to services and access to utilities and access to to Fire Protection and so forth, and whether or not this would unduly 00:44:44
burden the area or whether it would otherwise advance the health, safety and welfare of. 00:44:51
Of the. 00:44:58
Community. 00:44:59
Very good. Thank you. 00:45:01
I hope that answers your question. 00:45:02
That you post us. OK, I know we had some people here that also wanted to speak so. 00:45:04
Who wants to come up first? If you'll just state your name and your address for the record. 00:45:08
And are you going to speak on your behalf or is it the gentleman that's on on the zoom level? 00:45:12
Yeah, that's my question. First of all, speak up on my half. 00:45:17
The gentleman Zoom says that he's been trying to get through and keeps dropping. 00:45:19
OK. So let's go ahead and take your testimony. If you'll just state your name and address for the record. So and I want to know if 00:45:23
I could give maybe 3 something the phone and maybe she could text me. That's not technically possible for her to call and have him 00:45:28
testify over Zoom. He asked to actually call in. OK well he he basically called him on the phone saying he can't connect. He's in 00:45:33
Los Alamos, got a new job. 00:45:38
Is going through training and this and that and you can't. 00:45:44
And down because of the new job? Sure, so. 00:45:46
That's that's why I tried. 00:45:50
OK, well, let's go ahead and take your testimony at this time. Let me give my part then. If they let you talk, I'll let, I'll let 00:45:52
them talk to you. 00:45:54
OK, first of all, so let's let's get started. 00:45:58
We're going to take your test name, Simran Gonzalez again, your name, address and mine Ladera. 00:46:01
Did you receive a certified letter as notice of this object? Yes. OK, Mr. Chairman, if you could also request you identify whether 00:46:06
or not he was also sworn in for. 00:46:10
Yes, we're just learning this morning. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 00:46:14
So. 00:46:18
I live just due South. 00:46:20
Of the land and on the South side of them we share the same irrigation ditch. 00:46:22
Like I said, Ohh. 00:46:29
This might have caused conflict between my neighbor. We've always got along. 00:46:31
Might not get along with you now. I have nothing against them. 00:46:36
But. 00:46:39
And I've said before, I didn't want it zoned because when we bought that area, the guy that split that area up, he split up into 00:46:40
two acre lots. 00:46:43
Because back when he stood up, he could have went one acre lot and sold him one acre piece of. 00:46:47
But he didn't want it to be that that small, so it's went to today across sections. 00:46:52
It's been in A2 acre section zone. 00:46:57
And everybody that's kind of moved there knew that when they bought it, so. 00:46:59
For us to live there and be like, ohh **** and everybody's going to start setting it up. 00:47:03
Nobody in the zoned area or nobody in the immediate area that bought that. 00:47:07
I think it was like 8 acres or 8.9 acres. 00:47:11
Nobody. 00:47:14
Everybody bought it with the assumption it's a two acre lots in the section area. 00:47:16
So now he's trying to split his two acres. So now we have two people. 00:47:21
And then individual Gabes named Gabe Ortega. He has his role, so he supplies the. 00:47:25
Access. 00:47:31
To the bottom 2 acres, which is. 00:47:32
Find. 00:47:34
Get split up. 00:47:35
Though he disagrees, he don't want more people going down because access roads that already go down the Access Rd. 00:47:36
So. 00:47:43
I don't want just more people living there because now we already have it. I have some space I have. 00:47:45
I mean closest neighbor to me is at least. 00:47:50
2 acres. 00:47:53
Away from me. 00:47:54
I like it that way. 00:47:56
I don't have a lot of like. 00:47:58
Robots. I don't have this. I don't. 00:48:00
I'm not. I don't know. I can't predict the future. Somebody even there might move in their grades and they might not. 00:48:01
Ohh. He's been trying to sell the two acres a while back. 00:48:08
I don't know if he's still trying to sell it. I've never talked to him, never asked him. 00:48:12
I don't know if he thinks that he splits it up. He sell one acre lots easier than two acre lots. 00:48:15
Like I said, I don't know what his finance he says planning to move there. That's fine, he's. 00:48:20
Ohh. He's planning to have his grandchildren take over, his family take over. They could take over 2 acre lot I I. 00:48:26
Have no no rights with his family moving in. 00:48:33
I mean. 00:48:37
You're all welcome. 00:48:38
As far as that goes. 00:48:40
And I guess at that point that's probably all I kind of want to say, I just. 00:48:42
Trying to keep. 00:48:45
Our two acre areas and two acre areas. 00:48:46
Anything. 00:48:49
South of us is like. 00:48:50
Makers, 5 acres, 5 acres. 00:48:52
It's it's all like pretty much bigger lots till you get to that distance, he's maybe saying. 00:48:55
Where they break it down against maybe one acre sections but. 00:49:00
For the most of it, that's zoned 2 acre area. 00:49:04
We'd like to try and keep it that way if we could. 00:49:09
Thank you that that's it. So I need to try and get with Jesus so she can try and connect to him or can I just? 00:49:14
Get him on the line. Tester, did you have a comment? 00:49:19
Yeah, there's nobody been nobody in the waiting room or anybody that has tried to connect, because then it notifies me and then I 00:49:23
allow them in, but nobody is connected at all. 00:49:27
OK. 00:49:32
Gabe, they're saying you haven't tried to connect? 00:49:33
Step outside in their lobby teeth. Speak with him. 00:49:37
OK, we had some other people that wanted to. 00:49:43
We call her out down here. Yes, Sir. Could you come down to the lobby, please? 00:49:48
Thank you, Ray. 00:49:52
OK. 00:49:54
I'm sorry about that. If you'll just state your name and address for the record and whether you were sworn in, I believe also 00:49:55
correct, it was OK. And also, did you receive legal notice of this one change? Yeah, OK. 00:50:00
Marjorie McConnell at 7 Lane Order circle. 00:50:06
Umm. 00:50:09
My property is next to. 00:50:10
Mr. Ramirez. 00:50:14
Property, and I'd like to give you a little history about that. 00:50:15
Little neighborhood. I've been there since 1997. 00:50:19
Originally the owner of the property, there's our property Now my ex-husband and I come on it. 00:50:22
Umm. 00:50:29
Wanted to turn. 00:50:30
Our Peace and Dave and Dory Sanders, who are 15. 00:50:32
Lane or circle? 00:50:36
Into one acre pieces. 00:50:37
And put in a couple of shared wells and. 00:50:40
Rent out this property or sell. Sell when they're property. 00:50:43
For. 00:50:47
Little Mobile Home Park. 00:50:48
He thought that would be a great opportunity to to develop it. 00:50:49
And I don't this is like 1999 two thousand, because we bought the property in 2001. 00:50:52
And I don't know if he went through a formal process to see if he could subdivide his 11 acres into one acre pieces. 00:50:59
Or if the county just got wind of it. 00:51:07
But he was turned down. 00:51:09
He was told no. 00:51:11
So there's already precedent. 00:51:13
In in on our property. 00:51:15
That the subdivision into one acre pieces. 00:51:18
Has been disapproved. 00:51:21
And I don't know. Like I said, I don't know if it was a formal process or not, but Mr. Baca just. 00:51:23
At that point, he threw up his hands. He said, OK, I'm going to. 00:51:29
Resurvey this into 52 acre pieces. 2 plus acre pieces. 00:51:33
And I'm just gonna sell these pieces. Well, my ex-husband and I bought three of those pieces, and they've and Dory Sanders, who 00:51:37
aren't here tonight, they gave testimony last time. 00:51:41
Um, but the other two pieces? 00:51:46
So. 00:51:49
It seems to me that there's already. 00:51:50
An idea that. 00:51:55
Subdividing into one acre pieces in that neighborhood. 00:51:58
Is already something that was. 00:52:02
That was not allowed and is not the intention of the of the. 00:52:04
County. 00:52:08
In the long term, planning to have. 00:52:09
To rural residential to. 00:52:11
Pieces to to keep the flavor of the rural community up. 00:52:13
And so, you know, that's, you know, I'm the one with the water. 00:52:18
With the water rights thing, umm, we we've been paying the Rio Grande. 00:52:21
Conservancy District. 00:52:26
The taxes to have access to the water and sewer on and I can probably. 00:52:28
Work out some access, but it was a concern of mine. 00:52:32
That if I want to develop that property into some sort of agricultural property, you know, hang on to it, or if a future buyer 00:52:35
wanted to. 00:52:40
Develop that property into something agricultural or horse property or whatever they would need that water. 00:52:44
And it was a concern of mine that. 00:52:51
Subdividing this little. 00:52:53
There, there are two. There are two acre piece into. 00:52:55
Into. 00:52:57
To one acre pieces was going to. 00:52:59
Make that access a little more difficult. 00:53:02
And. 00:53:05
Not as amenable to the two acre. 00:53:08
Flavor. 00:53:11
That the county wants to maintain. 00:53:12
So you know, there's also the the idea that you know there's access. 00:53:15
To get into that one acre that they want to just keep, you know, they want that they want to subdivide and not. 00:53:19
And and not develop but. 00:53:25
I, you know, I just. 00:53:28
Cimarron was right, we have. 00:53:30
We bought those properties because we wanted the space. 00:53:32
And we want to keep that space. 00:53:36
So I want to thank you for your consideration and. 00:53:38
I hope my little history lesson has given you some. 00:53:41
Information to think about while you go back into session. 00:53:45
Thank you. 00:53:48
Any questions? 00:53:49
Thank you very much. 00:53:55
Mr. Chairman, if you have a minute. 00:53:56
I do. 00:53:58
Apologize for that. We had some other people that I believe were sporting wanted to speak. 00:54:24
Is there anybody else want to speak on this zone change? 00:54:29
Anybody else in the audience that wants to speak on this one change? 00:54:33
Ma'am, I tell you, representing your father. 00:54:37
Did you want to come forth and address some of the concerns that were brought forth? 00:54:40
Please go ahead. I mean, I just want to just. 00:54:53
To say what I. 00:54:57
Restate what I mentioned earlier. I'm not hearing anything. I mean, I understand their concerns. I I think that they're valuable. 00:54:59
Of course, we're all. 00:55:05
Property owners we have. 00:55:06
You know intentions with our land and we we follow rules and. 00:55:08
You know, we we. 00:55:12
We want to work things out and. 00:55:14
You know, all that good stuff. 00:55:16
But. 00:55:18
Again, I'm not hearing anything that. 00:55:19
That is really like, I mean he explained earlier what you look at for zone change and. 00:55:22
I mean I know there is a distance of 1.2 with the most. 00:55:28
You know, close R1. 00:55:33
But again, I I ask that you look at the surroundings. There are smaller lots and. 00:55:36
I mean their concerns are mobile homes. It's something that's going to continue. We're not making a huge impact difference with. 00:55:41
With value with. 00:55:47
You know, if we were to accomplish that in the future, again, we were all just assuming what's going to happen next. 00:55:48
You know, we do have the intent to sell or to pass down. We we don't know. And yes, we we did try selling the property at 2 acres. 00:55:54
This was about two years ago. 00:56:02
My father had a stroke heart attack and I mean again, he goes daily works on the land. It was something that we needed him to stop 00:56:04
doing so that he can recover. 00:56:08
His back working, his back going daily. 00:56:13
I mean the neighbor to the back that has a concern with the water irrigation rights. 00:56:16
It's a vacant land. I don't even think that the the owner goes there regularly. I don't know. I'm sorry if I'm assuming. 00:56:20
But it's a vacant land full of weeds. 00:56:26
I mean. 00:56:29
She's concerned about the value of her property. She's concerned about. 00:56:30
You know, someone buying in the future and what they're going to do. But then she's also neglecting our needs and what we want to 00:56:34
do as current homeowners with. 00:56:37
You know current. 00:56:42
Physicians that we want to make now. 00:56:44
I feel that that's a little bit of selfish. 00:56:46
On that. 00:56:48
Comments personally. 00:56:49
But again, I'm not taking away anyone's, you know, rights or comments or I mean. 00:56:52
Everybody has their own opinion. 00:56:58
We just asked that you. 00:57:00
You know when you look and review my father's case that you. 00:57:02
You know, look at the big picture on what does this area look like. Look at the property sizes of. 00:57:06
And consider that. 00:57:12
As a decision. 00:57:14
You know as a factor in your decision making. 00:57:16
There are those two acre lots that. 00:57:19
The owner. 00:57:22
So my father's right mentioned. 00:57:25
But it's only a section of four. You'll see in the map it's only a section of four acres. The rest, it's really spotty in that 00:57:27
area. I mean, you see, you see some beautiful custom homes. 00:57:32
And five acre. 00:57:37
Blots and you see some that are just in. 00:57:39
You know, .75 of an acre mobile homes, it's it's really spotty and. 00:57:41
I don't think it impacts value of homes. 00:57:46
Honestly, it's. 00:57:49
I mean. 00:57:51
Those those are just the comments I want to say, I just want you to. 00:57:52
See the big picture? I I'm I. 00:57:57
Don't agree with the comments that. 00:57:59
Are of a concern. 00:58:01
Fishers in questions of the applicant at this time. 00:58:04
OK, then I want to comment something. 00:58:06
Sure, please. 00:58:09
We don't see Maron. 00:58:11
Thank you. 00:58:15
Social commentary. 00:58:17
And when we. 00:58:20
I could get it. 00:58:23
Yeah, yeah. 00:58:24
And then once. 00:58:26
No, not enough. 00:58:29
No produce. 00:58:30
Please. 00:58:32
Yes, OK, yes, problem. 00:58:33
You are OK boy. 00:58:36
Yes. 00:58:37
Get on, for example, of planning and cancelling the other planning. 00:58:40
They They love each other. 00:58:44
0. 00:58:46
Manyana perform in the morning. 00:58:47
Avaya. 00:58:49
No. 00:58:51
Then my profit. 00:58:53
Defend that in effect. 00:58:54
In fact at wire fence. 00:58:56
Then my property. 00:58:58
Yeah, they Englishman the 10 feet. 00:59:00
Ohh, I'd in the beach. 00:59:05
OK. 00:59:07
Angle defense. 00:59:09
The wire. 00:59:11
I I. 00:59:12
I'm miscarry because maybe him. 00:59:13
So I can go on. 00:59:16
People employ the property. 00:59:18
Yeah. 00:59:19
CSI. 00:59:21
If somebody the planning going. 00:59:22
Where him remove the fence the my property. 00:59:26
Eastman. 00:59:32
Avila. 00:59:35
No. 00:59:36
You wish you had an interpreter. Let me just kind of add a comment to there so that it's clear what my father's trying to say. I 00:59:40
mean, I think that there's a lot of, you know, emotions of, you know, everybody's concerned with what might happen. 00:59:47
They they have their ideas, We have our ideas. And he just brought something up that might not be within your scope. You just 00:59:55
wanted to. 00:59:59
Mentioned that in. 01:00:03
Currently they they there is a water rights that they share him and one of the of the neighbors that are here. 01:00:04
To come in and you know he's not allowing access to the easement and you know, again it's it's something that might be out of the 01:00:12
school but. 01:00:16
Because he he felt it was important to mention that, you know, to show that, I guess maybe that the. 01:00:20
The neighbor can also cooperate and via a good neighbor in that sense I I I believe that's what where he was trying to get with 01:00:27
this. Thank you. 01:00:31
Because not setting my alarm. 01:00:37
He was. He was interested in buying the land before it was first till five years ago. 01:00:41
Ohh yeah my love. 01:00:49
Your lunch for me? 01:00:51
She is ending. 01:00:54
OK. Thank you so much. Thank you. 01:00:55
Sir, I know that you were trying to get your. 01:00:57
Another neighbor on the on the phone. 01:01:00
Please go ahead and come on up so we can. 01:01:02
Explain to you what the what the situation is. 01:01:05
Unfortunately, we can't take any testimony over the phone. 01:01:11
We would have to have them either here in person or at least on a Zoom link so that there would be an opportunity for to cross 01:01:14
examine him. 01:01:17
So for that reason, we can't allow testimony over the phone. So I apologize for that, but I just want to make it clear to you why 01:01:21
we won't do that. 01:01:24
I understood what you're saying. 01:01:29
I just kind of got him off the phone because he's like, well, I don't know why and he's like. 01:01:33
I've been on phone things before. I'm like, well, I don't know what this Yeah, I just, yeah, we just want to make it clear. Yeah. 01:01:36
I'll just let him know, but he's actually the neighborhood that they go through his easement to get through his easement. 01:01:44
They go through his property, which is the easement to get through his property, if I said that right. 01:01:50
But yeah. 01:01:55
Thank you. Well, thank you very much. 01:01:56
Is there anybody else that wishes to give any testimony at this time? 01:02:00
Sure, please. 01:02:04
On on that easement, is it a prescriptive easement or is it a actually the question I guess to? 01:02:06
Whoever. 01:02:12
Who, who, who has information on that easement that's being referred to? Does anybody have any information on that? 01:02:13
Right. I don't know if you right, Yeah. 01:02:19
Let me check if they put the server. 01:02:21
If not, Sir, if you, if you wanna address that easy, but if you have information regarding it that we don't the Commission Bell 01:02:26
would like. 01:02:30
Ask a question on that. 01:02:33
Go ahead and step forward please. 01:02:37
Question on the the the access easement. Is it? Is it a documented? 01:02:41
Or is it a prescriptive? 01:02:48
It's, I believe it's documented the easement that comes right off Ladera down into the 52 Ladera. 01:02:49
That's that's all that. But it's it's. 01:02:56
It's down on paper that is is is an easement. 01:02:59
Ohh yes that part is. 01:03:03
Noted that it is an easement, so he does have to give the right away to that easement. 01:03:06
I was just wondering if it was prescriptive or it was. 01:03:10
Because prescriptive easements. 01:03:13
Go away if things change. 01:03:15
So if he splits the property. 01:03:17
Then the prescriptive easement is no longer valid. If it's a, it's a, if it's a platted. 01:03:19
Still access easement. If he splits the properties, that means it's. That's why I was asking what it is. It is. 01:03:25
That Mr. Chairman. It might be more helpful to ask the applicant. That question. I think the applicant should know was for 01:03:33
easement they have. 01:03:36
Right. 01:03:40
Go ahead and yeah. 01:03:41
Go ahead and come on up please. 01:03:43
It is a document that Eastman. 01:03:50
And also there are other easements on the property as you can see in the map, there's the four, two acre lots. 01:03:52
So the property can be accessed from Ladera Rd. 01:03:58
That that's the one that. 01:04:02
It gives access to my father's property. That's documented. 01:04:05
And then there's other there's an easement that makes the like. 01:04:08
So the one that gives my dad's access runs this way. And then there's another one. 01:04:11
That goes this way in between the four. 01:04:16
Acre. So there is other ways to access those. 01:04:18
Those those properties as well. 01:04:21
And I wanted to mention that one of the tweaker properties there with a mobile home, it's my grandfather's plant. It's now passed 01:04:24
down to one of my uncles. 01:04:28
And we also have an uncle to the other side of of our property. 01:04:33
And I mean. 01:04:39
Again. 01:04:40
Because one of the four, it's my grandfathers. 01:04:41
That there is access through there as well. 01:04:44
He has. 01:04:47
That family member does not have any concern. They're not here today. They're they haven't. 01:04:48
Brought up their concerns about. 01:04:52
You know the access to. 01:04:53
52 Ladera, which is my dad's. 01:04:56
Property. 01:04:58
And and then all the lady mentioned a Anisman. 01:05:00
Being a concern for her, but. 01:05:03
The easement does not allow access to the the property to the back which is hers. 01:05:05
It's she access her property through a complete different. 01:05:09
Road or. 01:05:13
You know St. 01:05:14
OK. Thank you. Is that your question? 01:05:16
Photo because the The Forelands Heaven days. 01:05:17
Eventually they're using the. 01:05:21
The issue. 01:05:23
I said that comment on the paper. 01:05:24
They all have documented exponents. Understand. 01:05:28
Because him and blocker. 01:05:31
You know, my friends. 01:05:34
Wouldn't the launch? 01:05:36
That's what the water on my land. I don't understand why. 01:05:39
Why not? 01:05:42
No, not remove the loan. 01:05:43
When finished the using the water. 01:05:46
Continue to have me every time they using the. 01:05:49
At least the water I need to. 01:05:53
You know, for the loan. 01:05:55
Like a tarp or something that he has. They're holding the water. 01:05:57
And he irrigates. It doesn't get removed. But again, I I'm sorry, those are the scope of this meeting. Yes, it is. Thank you. 01:06:01
Milan. 01:06:09
That's the guidance for me. No problem. The guidance is OK. 01:06:10
Not that all. 01:06:14
I don't need to. 01:06:16
OK. 01:06:19
Thank you. Thank you. 01:06:20
Is there anybody else that has questions or would wish to comment on anything that has been said this evening? 01:06:23
Commissioners, anything else? 01:06:31
That's incredible. 01:06:38
I don't. I don't have that access, that's for sure. He was. What were you about to say about the easements? That's something that 01:06:40
if it's your property, we're not going to be discussing that tonight. You can get with him and figure out your your personal 01:06:43
easement at a later time, if you will. That easement goes right in front of my property, one of the easements they're talking 01:06:47
about. 01:06:51
So and the grandfather passed away. He had moved that gate to block that whole easement to the land, and all of a sudden he wanted 01:06:55
to move it back for. 01:06:59
I don't know if it's for them so they could get back and forth on it. 01:07:03
He said that's the easement between. 01:07:07
Him and. 01:07:09
Our property because that that. 01:07:10
Crosses off our property, so. 01:07:12
I don't know in that easement. 01:07:14
If it's actually has to, I have to like allow that or. 01:07:16
Me and their brother-in-law. I'm not sure what it is, Tim. 01:07:20
If he moves his fence out, if that easement can be just flopped off, so don't have to be a argument to discussion. 01:07:24
None of that stuff. 01:07:31
And all apologize in front of you all. 01:07:33
I'll start moving the canvases. 01:07:35
I was putting the cameras so I don't over wet his land. 01:07:37
Because my land sets in little higher than his, so when I water. 01:07:40
Water backflow into his gland. 01:07:44
And I didn't even get him mad about that. Makes noise, can be saying I'm flooding land. 01:07:46
I'm doing a Picasso and to try and topple because our gates. 01:07:51
One of the gates is broke, so it hasn't been. 01:07:54
We on the bottom so water goes under mined lands higher, so the water. 01:07:57
And it's a kick back to his side, so. 01:08:01
Of putting the canvas that stops the water from going that way. 01:08:03
But I'll be sure to try and start moving the canvas from now on. I mean, if you must be in the issue, OK, I'll work on that. 01:08:07
Thank you. That's I just want to know if you could clarify the easement thing, if it's possible I could talk to them later. No 01:08:12
matter Dave, do we want to go down that path now or do can you verify his easement? 01:08:17
No. 01:08:22
If they have a copy of a recorded easement, that would be the best way to show the board what what exists and what doesn't. I 01:08:23
mean, I think that's the best evidence, but. 01:08:27
If it's in the back, yeah. 01:08:32
OK. 01:08:34
Very good. 01:08:35
OK, well. 01:08:37
We will be making a decision on this one change again after our executive session a little bit later in the meeting. 01:08:38
OK. 01:08:43
We'll move on to item number 8. This is also a public hearing. This is Ordinance 2023 regarding. 01:08:45
The sitting and permitting of wireless telecommunication facilities miss talking you. 01:08:52
Good evening, Chair and Commissioners. I stand before you this afternoon requesting approval for an ordinance regulating the city 01:08:59
and permitting of wireless telecommunication facilities. 01:09:04
The purpose and intent of this ordinance is to protect the health, safety and welfare of the citizens of Valencia County. 01:09:10
By minimizing the negative impact of wireless telecommunication facilities. 01:09:16
The ordinance will establish a fair and efficient process for review and approval of applications. 01:09:22
Per the federal, state and local regulations. 01:09:28
Encourage the use of. 01:09:31
Existing facilities. 01:09:33
Ensure all new facilities are constructed using current technologies that are designed to conceal the site and to accommodate 01:09:36
further growth. 01:09:40
And imposed fees for applicants desiring to place a new facility, whether on existing structures or new structures. 01:09:44
Fees cover the cost of a consultant to advise the county on this highly technical process and I think that's an important to point 01:09:52
out because we don't necessarily have the staff. 01:09:56
With that expertise. So we may have to reach out to somebody who does. 01:10:01
And this should be put on the companies that are requesting. 01:10:06
The. 01:10:11
The the tower. 01:10:12
So again, I am recommending approval. 01:10:14
For the ordinance regulating the sitting and permitting of wireless telecommunication facilities. 01:10:17
And I stand for any questions. 01:10:23
Commissioners, any questions, Miss Amaya? 01:10:24
Here's your son. 01:10:30
Thank you. Thank you. 01:10:31
OK, hit. This time we're gonna go ahead and move on to our action items and item number 14 be moved up, so. 01:10:36
At this time I need a motion to. 01:10:42
Adjourn the Board. Adjourned Board of County Commissioners and reconvene is Indigent Board. 01:10:44
I'll move second motion second. Any discussion on the motion to 2nd. 01:10:48
There be no Miss Richardson vote yes. Mr. Brazil, your vote Yes Mr. Sparking your vote Yes You share on your vote Yes yes. 01:10:53
Samuel. 01:11:00
I'm sorry. 01:11:01
I'll confuse here, Miss Garcia. 01:11:04
Sorry about that. 01:11:07
You were halfway there or here. Thank you. 01:11:09
Good evening, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:11:13
The following is a summary of activity for the month of June. 01:11:16
15 claims were submitted by individuals of the public in the amount of $12,341.99. 01:11:19
Of which $975.52. 01:11:26
It's being submitted for consideration. 01:11:29
Both claims were submitted for individuals of the detention center. 01:11:32
In the amount of $16,495.61. 01:11:36
Of which $4123.91. 01:11:42
It's been submitted for consideration. 01:11:46
9 appeals in the amount of $2743.76. 01:11:49
27 total claims. 01:11:55
We're submitted in the amount of. 01:11:57
$7843.19. 01:11:59
The June. 01:12:04
Roadrunner Health Services Detention Center. 01:12:05
Medical contract payment is. 01:12:08
24,250. 01:12:10
Dollars and $0.84. 01:12:12
The total amount for consideration from the indigent fund is. 01:12:15
32,094. 01:12:18
Dollars and three cents. 01:12:20
The Indigent Fund. 01:12:23
Balance As of June 13th, it's $1,440,842.68. 01:12:24
And with that, I recommend approval. 01:12:33
Any questions about Garcia and the Agent indigent fund? 01:12:36
There's there's a recommendation chair, Yes. I'd like to make a motion to approve as presented. 01:12:41
Second, have a motion second for approval, any discussion motion and 2nd. 01:12:46
Would be no, commissioner. Vote yes, vote yes, Fisher sparked in your vote yes. Sure. Got your vote yes. Vote yes. It's approved. 01:12:50
Thank you. Thank you. 01:12:53
Mr. Chairman, Regarding Public Hearing Number Ordinance #8. 01:13:01
Does there need to be? 01:13:06
Public hearing and input on that. 01:13:11
You know what? I did skip that. 01:13:14
I apologize. 01:13:16
I don't know if there's anybody here to speak on that, but I. 01:13:17
I I thought that you did, Mr. Chairman, but I was sitting here, so. But yes, let's go back to that just in case. OK. Thank you. 01:13:19
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 01:13:23
I didn't see anybody here to speak on. It's like assume not, but I that was my mistake. 01:13:27
OK. I apologize guys. We'll go back to item number 8. That's the ordinance, the public hearing on that. Is there anybody in the 01:13:43
audience? 01:13:46
Did you go out of Ohh. Thank you. I'm sorry. Yeah. At this time I need a motion to. 01:13:50
Reconvenes board county commissioners. 01:13:56
So moved. 01:13:57
The motion second. Any discussion motion second. 01:13:58
There be no Commissioner Rich in your vote yes, vote yes. Mr. Spark, from your vote yes. Yes. You're gonna vote I vote yes. Thank 01:14:01
you for catching that. OK, we'll get me on track here. 01:14:05
OK. Item number 8 was the Republic of the public hearing on the regulating Insignia, permitting and wireless communications. 01:14:10
Some of you go ahead and come up again and I'll just ask if there's any public comment. 01:14:17
On this. 01:14:21
Commissioner. 01:14:23
Chair and Commissioners, there was We posted it for public comment and received none to my knowledge. Is there anybody in the 01:14:25
audience that wishes to make comment on this particular ordinance? 01:14:30
OK. 01:14:38
There be none. 01:14:39
We'll go ahead and move on to the action item. Is that, is that OK to do it that way? Yes, it is OK. 01:14:40
So at this time, we'll move on to item number 9. 01:14:45
This is approval of the ordinance regulating the sitting and permitting of wireless telecommunications. Miss, I'm here. You can go 01:14:49
ahead and come up, but I don't think we'll need you to do anything on this one. But. 01:14:54
Wouldn't come up in case there's questions. Any questions, fellow commissioners on this? 01:14:59
Sure. No question, yes. 01:15:03
Is this a this? 01:15:06
Direction to to publish the ordinance or am I, you know, missing the ordinance here? 01:15:08
Is this a? Is this? Is there an ordinance? 01:15:15
To approve here is this Is this just to to? 01:15:18
My understanding this is an ordinance for approval. That's right that this is the ordinance for approval. It was directed to be 01:15:22
published I believe last two meetings ago. That's correct. And it was posted in the paper. 01:15:27
I don't have a. 01:15:34
Copy of the ordinance, I guess. 01:15:36
It's not in our packet. 01:15:41
Sorry. 01:15:46
Yeah, I I I have the copies here, yes. 01:15:48
And Mr. Chairman, it's certainly it's it's the discretion of the Board if the Board would like to take additional time to consider 01:16:14
this certainly you know May. 01:16:18
You know and and you know I mean. 01:16:24
And table of the item until the next meeting. I mean if if you would like, otherwise I do have. 01:16:26
Of two proposed changes which are very very minor on page 8, which would be to just change it to. 01:16:31
Reflect that the resolutions that are you know that should be setting fees. 01:16:37
Will be set at a later time. They're not already identified in this ordinance. So I just clarified that language, but it's really 01:16:43
not of consequence relating to the ordinance itself. 01:16:47
Issues. Would you wish to table the action on this till next meeting or? 01:16:52
I think I would just wanted to read I want. 01:16:57
I am concerned about. 01:17:01
About promoting appearance and and. 01:17:04
Using technologies to conceal, I just want to make sure that's not. 01:17:09
Overly. 01:17:13
Difficult to do, you know. 01:17:14
Yeah, I'd like to table it and and. 01:17:21
No, we don't need to table the public hearing, just the action, is that correct? Correct. Just the action, just the action item, 01:17:24
it's already been published in anyone who had the opportunity, I mean anyone had the opportunity to show up at this meeting and. 01:17:29
And. 01:17:34
Be available to comment. Therefore, it shouldn't be a problem to table it and address it the next meeting, because anyone who is 01:17:36
interested here would be here or on Zoom to to hear you take that action. Mr. Chairman, just so that we're certain to comply with 01:17:42
437 Seven, we will republish it and. 01:17:47
Have that on the next agenda for the board's consideration. 01:17:53
For the public hearing or just for the action? For the action? 01:17:56
OK. 01:18:00
Right. We have a motion to table the action on this particular ordinance. It's item number 9 for tonight is our second. 01:18:01
2nd. 01:18:07
Have a motion in a second for tabling any discussion on the motion of the 2nd. 01:18:07
Michael. 01:18:12
Yes, yes. 01:18:13
Mr. Sparkman, you vote yes on your vote yes, I vote yes. We'll table that and revisit this at our next meeting, whenever we have 01:18:15
it on on the next agenda. 01:18:19
Thank you. Thank you. 01:18:23
OK, let's move on to item number 10. 01:18:26
Approval of recognition and recording of accounts payable is true here. 01:18:29
Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:18:35
I have one Accounts Payable. 01:18:38
Authorization for your consideration. 01:18:41
This is for the period May 6th through June 14th, 2023 and it is in the amount of 2,710,000. 01:18:44
$624.58 it is. 01:18:53
About a month and a half. That's why it's so high here. We've accumulated for that period of time. 01:18:57
As far as payroll authorizations, I have three separate ones. 01:19:04
234 separate authorizations for your consideration. 01:19:09
The first one is for wages paid on April 21st, 2023. 01:19:13
In the amount of $747, I'm sorry, $747,894.02. 01:19:18
The second one is for wages paid on May 5th, 2023 in the amount of $723,123.67. 01:19:29
The next one is for wages paid on May 19th, 2023. 01:19:41
In the amount of 715,000. 01:19:46
$998.45. 01:19:49
And the last one is for wages paid on June 2nd, 2023. 01:19:53
In the amount of 727,000. 01:19:58
$489.50 and if you can notice, they're all pretty similar in the amount of some of it has. Some of the increases have to do with. 01:20:02
Overtime, or if we pay nominal fees to our volunteer firefighters, it brings those wages up a little bit, but they they're pretty 01:20:12
consistent, staying within the same range. 01:20:17
And with that, I stand for any questions and I do recommend approval of all these packets. Very good. Any questions to Mr. Hill? 01:20:22
There be none so recommendation. 01:20:32
Sure. 01:20:34
Must make motion to approve as presented. 01:20:35
You have a motion. 01:20:38
We have a motion second for approval. Any discussion on the motion the 2nd? 01:20:39
There be none, Commissioners. Your vote yes. Mission Bazaar vote yes. Mr. Sparkman, you vote yes. You've done your vote yes. I 01:20:43
vote yes. You're approved. 01:20:46
Thank you. 01:20:49
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, and very briefly, as you're signing all this, I intended to start off by letting you know that 01:21:16
Department of Finance and DFA did approve our interim budget for 2024. So we have their approval on that Now. We'll work on 01:21:22
getting the final budget together. Thank you. That's good news. Thank you for sharing. 01:21:29
Sure. 01:21:37
OK, item number 11, Approval of resolution. State powers, Mr. Hill. 01:21:44
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:21:48
I have state bars for your consideration. This are all in preparation for fiscal year end. 01:21:50
What I do is I pull up a report. 01:21:56
Showing where we stand and where we're. 01:21:59
Have overspend or received more money than we budget it and this are based on that report. Now this are not going to be the final. 01:22:04
Budget adjustments I bring before you for the fiscal year because we need to pay all invoices and close and pretty much almost 01:22:11
close our books. For 2023, I bring you last set of budget adjustments before I can close those books. 01:22:19
So I stand for any question On this date bars. 01:22:28
Any questions, Mr. Hill? 01:22:31
There be none as a recommendation. 01:22:34
Primary Commission to approve the state bars as presented. 01:22:36
Second, have a motion second for approval. Any discussion on the motion of the 2nd. 01:22:40
Would be done, Commissioner Rich, in your vote yes, vote yes. Mr. Spark, in your vote yes, your down, your vote yes, vote yes are 01:22:45
approved. 01:22:48
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, this resolution is 2023 Dash 38. 01:22:52
Hey, item number 12. 01:23:17
Is also approval of resolution local bars, Mr. here, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, these are our local bars that I have been able 01:23:19
to identify to date. 01:23:23
One of the things I should have mentioned with the state bars and this ones as well is that we cannot submit. 01:23:29
To DFA, our final report for the fiscal year cannot have any negative. 01:23:35
Budget balances. So everything that we spend or we receive, we the has to. There has to be a budgeted amount for that. This is the 01:23:40
first. 01:23:44
Step in completing those for the fiscal year end. 01:23:49
And I stand for any questions, any questions on the local bars? 01:23:53
Here's a recommendation. 01:23:58
Mr. Chair like make a motion to approve as presented. 01:24:00
Second, have a motion and 2nd for approval Any discussion on the motion of the 2nd. 01:24:03
For me, being non commissioner, vote yes, vote yes, she spark. When you vote yes, you're on your vote yes, vote yes, they are 01:24:07
approved. 01:24:11
Thank you all. 01:24:14
Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, this resolution is 2023 Dash 39. 01:24:15
OK. Item number 13 was tabled, so we'll move on now to our executive session. Mr. ***** would you please announce it? 01:24:42
I'd be happy to, Mr. Chairman. 01:24:48
Pursuant to 10:15 one. 01:24:50
Each of the following matters may be discussed in Executive session under 1015 One and H3 Administrative Adjudicatory Proceedings 01:24:52
Zone Change. 01:24:56
23-22 and 23-21. 01:25:00
Under competitive seal proposals 10/15 One H 6. 01:25:03
Lindsay County Hospital. 01:25:08
Already Sir? Motion to go into executive session for the stated reasons. 01:25:12
Squirrel Make a motion to approve. 01:25:16
Present. 01:25:19
We have We have a motion second to. 01:25:20
Reconvening Executive session for the stated reasons. Any discussion on motion the 2nd. 01:25:23
Begin, Commissioner, in your vote yes. Commissioner Bell, you vote yes, which is parked in your vote yes. If you ever got your 01:25:28
vote yes, I vote yes. 01:25:31
We will report. 01:25:35
No, go ahead please. 01:25:42
OK, we should go back to regular session please. 01:25:45
Moved. 01:25:49
Motion and 2nd. Any discussion on Motion and 2nd. 01:25:51
Be known for scripts and broke. 01:25:54
Yes, I wrote yes Spark, when you vote yes, share down your vote. Yes, yes, we're back in session. Mr. ***** would you please 01:25:56
summarize the items discussed in closed session, please? 01:26:00
Or they can do it wherever either be he wants to cool that. 01:26:05
Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission, the items discussed in closed session were limited to those in the motion for closure. 01:26:14
Specifically, Zones Change 23. 01:26:19
22/23/21 Request for proposals for Valencia County Hospital. No final action was taken. 01:26:22
Good. 01:26:29
Motion to that effect, please move. 01:26:30
Discussion on the motion and 2nd. 01:26:32
There be none from Rich in your vote yes, vote yes Mr. sparking your vote Yes Commissioner got your vote? Yes Yes. 01:26:35
OK. We'll move on back to our action items. Item number 15 is the approval of a zone change 2023-022. 01:26:42
Mr. Bucket. 01:26:50
Good evening, Chairman, Commissioners before you. 01:26:54
Is there request for approval of zone change 2023? 01:26:57
Dash 02/2, District 5. 01:27:00
PNZ Commissioner Trujillo BC Ortegon. 01:27:03
Maria Eva Herrera's request a zone change from rural residential to district R2 to rural residential one district R1. 01:27:07
To split the property into two lots. 01:27:15
Legal Description Subdivision Las Palomas Acres. 01:27:17
Lot 22.49 acres. 01:27:20
Map 711995 amended V Also SWH. 01:27:23
Located at 11 Palomas Rd. Los Lunas, NM 87031. 01:27:29
UPC. 01:27:34
1012038. 01:27:35
475445 followed by 6 zeros. 01:27:39
Currently zoned rural residential two District R2. 01:27:42
And stand for any questions. 01:27:47
Commissioners, any questions, Mr. Bucket? 01:27:49
Mr. Chair, just comment please. 01:27:52
This is my district, however, I am a. 01:27:55
Of budding. 01:27:58
Landowner to the property in question. 01:28:00
And so it was not. 01:28:03
Part of the discussion on this item in executive session. 01:28:05
And I will be recusing myself from the vote as well. 01:28:08
Very good. 01:28:11
OK. Any other questions or comments? 01:28:13
To be known as their recommendation. 01:28:16
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve the zone change change as presented. 01:28:22
We have a motion for approval of this zone change. 01:28:26
Is there a second? 01:28:29
2nd. 01:28:31
That a motion second, Any discussion on the motion the 2nd. 01:28:32
There's a reason, Commissioner Richard, your vote. 01:28:37
Yes, Bishop. Sell your vote. Yes. 01:28:39
Mr. Sparkman, your vote. Yes, Mr. Regan. 01:28:41
Recusal. 01:28:44
And I vote yes, it is approved. 01:28:45
OK. Item number 16 again approval of zone change 2023 that dash 02/1. 01:28:48
Mr. Butcher. 01:28:54
Good evening, Chairman, Commissioners, before you is a request for approval of zone Change 2023 Dash 01021. 01:28:57
District 4 PNC Commissioner Sublet. 01:29:04
BBC Bazelle. 01:29:07
Possess Cipriano Ramirez requested zone change from rural residential to district R2. 01:29:08
To rural residential one district are R1 to split the property into two lots. 01:29:13
Legal Description Subdivision land of Toby and Lydia Pino. 01:29:19
Tracks C1 B 2.08 acres. 01:29:22
C 4/24/2000 revision. 01:29:26
Located at 52 Ladera Rd. Belen, NM 87002. 01:29:29
UPC 1006. 01:29:33
033475 01:29:36
335 followed by 6 zeros. 01:29:39
Currently zoned rural residential two district are R2. 01:29:42
And they stand for any questions. 01:29:46
Any questions, Mr. Bache Commissioners? 01:29:47
What was the planning and zoning vote? 01:29:49
This one was recommended for denial. 01:29:54
And that was at 3 to 0. 01:29:57
Any other questions? 01:30:02
Here's a recommendation. 01:30:05
Mr. Chair, Bishop Zell, that's your district? Sure, I'd like to make a motion to disapprove. 01:30:07
We have a motion for denial of the zone change. 01:30:13
Is there a second? 01:30:16
2nd. 01:30:18
The motion and 2nd for denial. Any discussion on the motion to the second. 01:30:20
There be none, Commissioner Richardson wrote. 01:30:26
No. 01:30:28
We should Brazil your vote yes. 01:30:29
Mr. Sparkman, your vote yes. 01:30:30
Share on your vote No. I vote no. 01:30:32
So the zone change does pass, correct? 01:30:36
Mr. Chairman, Members of the Board No the. 01:30:41
The motion fails. 01:30:44
So a new motion would be in order. OK. Thank you for that. 01:30:46
So the motion did fail. So is there another motion on this? 01:30:49
There's one change. 01:30:53
I will make a motion to approve the zone change. 01:30:57
We have a motion for approval. Is there a second? 01:31:00
2nd. 01:31:02
The motion second for approval. Any discussion on the motion of the 2nd. 01:31:03
There be none, Commissioners, in your vote. 01:31:08
Yes, Commissioner Bell, your vote no. Mr. Sparked your vote no. You got your vote yes and I vote yes. So now it is approved that 01:31:10
some changes. 01:31:13
Is approved also. 01:31:18
OK, we have a couple of upcoming meetings to announce. Actually one, the July 5th, 2023 business meeting has been cancelled. 01:31:20
July 19, 2023 public hearing business meeting. 01:31:27
Will be at 5:00 o'clock here in the Chambers and also via Facebook Live. 01:31:31
And is there any closing comments from fellow commissioners? 01:31:35
There be none. We are adjourned. 01:31:38
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Mr. Chairman, we're good when you are. 00:00:05
Under the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:27
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:30
One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:33
Commissioners, have the agenda before us. Got a couple changes I'd like to. 00:00:44
Present to you, first of all, item number 13 will be tabled this evening. 00:00:49
And I was gonna ask if there's objection to move item number 14. 00:00:54
To our first action item of the evening so it would go before item 9. 00:00:59
If there's. 00:01:05
Or if there's any. 00:01:06
If there's a. 00:01:08
Opposition to that, that I would appreciate that and if there's any other changes, my fellow Commissioners all accept those now. 00:01:10
Any changes by staff? 00:01:18
No, Mr. Chairman, that was the. 00:01:20
Is there a motion to approve the agenda as amended? 00:01:22
So moved. 00:01:25
The motion and 2nd any discussion. The motion is second. 00:01:27
They've begun, Mr. Richardson. Vote yes, vote yes. Commissioner sparked your vote yes, vote yes. I vote yes. It is approved as 00:01:30
amended. 00:01:34
Item number four, approval of minutes. We have one set of minutes from our. 00:01:38
June 7th, 2023 Public hearing Business meeting. Are there any changes to those minutes? 00:01:41
Any changes by staff? 00:01:49
No, Mr. Chairman. 00:01:51
If not, is there a recommendation to approve as presented? 00:01:52
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve as presented. 00:01:54
2nd. 00:01:57
The motion and 2nd. Any discussion on the motion and 2nd. 00:01:58
There would be none. Commissioner Richardson, you vote yes, vote yes, vote yes. On your vote yes, vote yes. They stand approved. 00:02:01
We'll go ahead and move on now to our public comment. 00:02:08
Thank you. 00:02:18
OK. 00:02:40
There's a couple of names on here that I can't read, but the first one I believe the last name is Smith. 00:02:42
OK. 00:02:48
So hidden. 00:02:49
Step up and you'll if you'll just give your name and address for the record, please. 00:02:51
Good evening. My name is Sharon Smith. 00:03:01
I love that 7 Lewis St. 00:03:04
And blind. 00:03:06
Which is Casa Colorado area, for those who don't know. 00:03:08
I'm here again on the issue of the cannabis farm they're trying to put at the beginning of our neighborhood. 00:03:12
I've spoke here before. 00:03:19
We are very concerned. Our issues are still the same. We made sure you each had a copy of that last time we were here so you could 00:03:21
see what our issues were. 00:03:26
They have not changed at all. 00:03:31
We have not heard from the county. I have made numerous calls. 00:03:33
And I'm still not getting answers. 00:03:37
I have tried to make an appointment to be at one of your hearings. 00:03:40
So that we can talk to you. 00:03:44
And nobody calls me back. 00:03:48
So I made a second call and I used Mr. Sparkman. 00:03:51
As my sponsor, because I didn't know how to be, how to get a hold of the sponsor, I didn't know who was the sponsor, who was in 00:03:54
the sponsor. 00:03:58
And I was told no. 00:04:02
No explanation. 00:04:04
Just no. 00:04:07
I don't know if Mr. Sparkman said no or if they just. 00:04:09
Don't use the Councilman. 00:04:13
I would like to have a hearing. 00:04:15
We have great concerns. 00:04:18
And we are not being heard. 00:04:21
And now this has gone on for quite a while. 00:04:23
And we're still not getting answers. And I've spoken to Mike Milam. 00:04:26
He probably remembers my call. And you did say you would call me as soon as anything changed. 00:04:30
I haven't heard from my. 00:04:37
I don't know if it's still on. 00:04:38
I don't know if it's off. 00:04:41
I don't know what my next step needs to be. I don't know if you have a requirement. 00:04:42
For us to do something before we get to stand before you. 00:04:47
Please advise us. 00:04:51
We pay taxes. 00:04:52
We have been here 2022 1/2 years. Several of my neighbors have been here longer and some are little shorter than us. 00:04:54
We should have rights. 00:05:03
So please tell us how to get to your hearing so that we can express our concerns. 00:05:06
And our complaints? 00:05:11
And what are our issues are at this point? 00:05:13
I've spoke to the road department. 00:05:17
They will not call me back. 00:05:19
I have given them questions. 00:05:21
That there should be answers to. 00:05:23
One lady said she's been there 20 years. 00:05:25
Why can she not answer? 00:05:28
Why that road is now called? 00:05:30
Peace flamed, but it was not called Peace Lane when we moved here. But nobody seems to know that. 00:05:33
Please answer our questions. Please help us with this cannabis issue. It does not belong in the neighborhood. You look around and 00:05:41
there are thousands and thousands of acres of land. 00:05:46
They're much more appropriate. 00:05:52
For a cannabis farm, we are not telling you we don't think they should be out there. 00:05:54
We are not putting in our political field. 00:06:00
Thank you. Thank you. 00:06:03
OK, I believe there is another signature like. 00:06:07
OK. That's perfect. Go ahead and come on up if you'll just. 00:06:12
You just state your name and address for the record, please. Evening, my name is Chuck Woodward. 00:06:16
That was my wife you just listened to. 00:06:20
7 Lewis St. there in Costa, Colorado. 00:06:22
We've been in here before and I don't have a lot to say tonight. You know, I've said it all before. 00:06:26
Basically here just to let you know that. 00:06:31
We're we're still concerned. We're not going away. 00:06:34
We're going to keep after this thing, you know, until we get something resolved. 00:06:37
You know, like she said, there's a lot of various in that area. 00:06:42
They're far more appropriate for something like this in a neighborhood. 00:06:47
Everybody we've talked to says this is definitely going to affect our property values. 00:06:51
We've got kids in the neighborhood. The Sheriff's Department has agreed that it's likely going to bring our crime rate back up 00:06:57
again. 00:07:01
And we spent a long time and we. 00:07:05
Organize a community. 00:07:08
Watch. 00:07:11
System and we've cleaned it up and and we've got rid of there was a lot of crime there and this. 00:07:12
Pretty much nonexistent now. We want to keep it that way. 00:07:17
And so, like she said, we've been here over 20 years or 22 years. 00:07:21
But there are people in that neighborhood. Been there 40 years and more. 00:07:25
And I think that we should have a say in what goes on. 00:07:29
What comes into our neighborhood? 00:07:32
You know. 00:07:34
This is just not like. 00:07:35
Somebody when this started, it looked like somebody who gets to build a house there. 00:07:37
And it almost looked like they tried to sneak it in. You know, when they put the well in them, they put a big pile of dirt in 00:07:42
front of it so you couldn't see it and. 00:07:45
And you know, I I don't know. It's just it's just a screen deal. I I think that it's just not appropriate for a neighborhood like 00:07:49
that. 00:07:53
To have. 00:07:56
That our neighborhood. 00:07:57
I realize it's legal. I'm against it. 00:07:59
Doesn't matter. It's legal, but we we just don't want it growing in our neighborhood. 00:08:02
So that's it for me. Thank you. Thank you. 00:08:07
OK, next we have a Ramon Baca. 00:08:12
Good afternoon. 00:08:26
Under one baca. 00:08:27
A little bit 618 of drive. 00:08:30
I've been in a long. 00:08:32
Life residency born and raised. 00:08:33
In the Conqueror. 00:08:36
And I live in Berlin. 00:08:38
But I was some different calculator I seen all that there was to be seen. 00:08:40
I'd like to share with you yours have seen what? 00:08:46
All these drugs have come up to how much is costing us all our taxpayer dollars. 00:08:49
How much? 00:08:55
If.